Society of Fire Safety

With a New National Executive Committee meeting this week in Sydney - What is a fire safety or work issue you would like Society of Fire Safety to deal with or Advocate for. Is it PI Cover costs, EA CPEng Assessments, Ethics in our industry, Education, Women in Fire Engineering. Let us know. National Conference is coming up in July 2023 in Brisbane. Get your passionate issues out here - we will get them covered. 

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Stephen Burton (SFS QLD Chair) Fire Engineers make it work...
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Hi Stephen

Thanks for your post. In response I suggest the following: 

1. SFS Professional Standards Scheme 

I'm thinking of becoming a Building Surveyor :)  because it appears the AIBS have their act together with their professional standards scheme as shown by image below. With FPAA also having their own scheme it appears that EA and SFS have been left behind and AIBS/ FPAA members are getting more value from their membership 

2. PI Insurance

This remains an issue for the industry, especially small business. There is a lack of understanding of what a fire engineer does in the insurance market and we are treated similar to a Private Certifier in terms of risk profile. 

3. Contracts 

Similar issue as Point 2 on the legal side. A standard scope and duties of a Fire Engineer to attach to contracts would help to reduce the risk profile and also improve market quality. 

4. Quantification and Risk Assessment

The Risk Engineering Society is interested in working with SFS to assist with Risk Assessment Training and presenting on the REBOK (Risk Engineering Book of Knowledge) to SFS Members. Can this be facilitated via workshop at the back of the 2023 conference. A University has expressed an interest in this.

5. Promoting Fire Engineering to the next Generation

We need a promotional video clip to show the general public what a Fire Engineer does to attract the next generation of fire engineers to the profession. 

6. Performance Solutions Misconception

There is a misconception in the industry that fire performance solutions are partly responsible for the building defects and cladding crisis we are experiencing. Some promotional videos to address this misconception would be great. A parallel would be the videos and promotional material put out by the AAC to highlight that Private Certification is not responsible for all defects crisis in the industry  

All the best 

Kind regards

Amer

Take a break. Have a bite of our latest newsletter: Lote Notes Feb 23 – Fire & Security in Practice

Dr Amer Magrabi  | Principal - Fire & Risk Engineering 

e: [email protected]
w: www.loteconsulting.com

This email (including any attachments) is confidential and subject to copyright. If it has been sent to you in error please inform us by reply email and then delete the email, destroy any printed copy and do not disclose or use the information in it. If this email is a private communication then it does not represent the views of Lote Consulting. We do not warrant that this email is error or virus free. If, for any reason, we suspect that an incoming email may be virus-infected, it will be quarantined and may not reach its intended recipient. If you are concerned that your email may not reach its intended recipient, please request confirmation of receipt within the body of your email and resend the email if the confirmation is not received within a reasonable time.

With a New National Executive Committee meeting this week in Sydney - What is a fire safety or work issue you would like Society of Fire Safety to deal with or Advocate for. Is it PI Cover costs, EA CPEng Assessments, Ethics in our industry, Education, Women in Fire Engineering. Let us know. National Conference is coming up in July 2023 in Brisbane. Get your passionate issues out here - we will get them covered. 

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Stephen Burton (SFS QLD Chair) Fire Engineers make it work...
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Hi Amer, thanks for responding. We are in an SFS National committee meeting currently. Most of your points are clear, but on your first point - what would a professional standards scheme achieve that is not currently achieved by being CPEng/NER? 

Blair Stratton, 0434 481 676

Hi Stephen

Thanks for your post. In response I suggest the following: 

1. SFS Professional Standards Scheme 

I'm thinking of becoming a Building Surveyor :)  because it appears the AIBS have their act together with their professional standards scheme as shown by image below. With FPAA also having their own scheme it appears that EA and SFS have been left behind and AIBS/ FPAA members are getting more value from their membership 

2. PI Insurance

This remains an issue for the industry, especially small business. There is a lack of understanding of what a fire engineer does in the insurance market and we are treated similar to a Private Certifier in terms of risk profile. 

3. Contracts 

Similar issue as Point 2 on the legal side. A standard scope and duties of a Fire Engineer to attach to contracts would help to reduce the risk profile and also improve market quality. 

4. Quantification and Risk Assessment

The Risk Engineering Society is interested in working with SFS to assist with Risk Assessment Training and presenting on the REBOK (Risk Engineering Book of Knowledge) to SFS Members. Can this be facilitated via workshop at the back of the 2023 conference. A University has expressed an interest in this.

5. Promoting Fire Engineering to the next Generation

We need a promotional video clip to show the general public what a Fire Engineer does to attract the next generation of fire engineers to the profession. 

6. Performance Solutions Misconception

There is a misconception in the industry that fire performance solutions are partly responsible for the building defects and cladding crisis we are experiencing. Some promotional videos to address this misconception would be great. A parallel would be the videos and promotional material put out by the AAC to highlight that Private Certification is not responsible for all defects crisis in the industry  

All the best 

Kind regards

Amer

Take a break. Have a bite of our latest newsletter: Lote Notes Feb 23 – Fire & Security in Practice

Dr Amer Magrabi  | Principal - Fire & Risk Engineering 

e: [email protected]
w: www.loteconsulting.com

This email (including any attachments) is confidential and subject to copyright. If it has been sent to you in error please inform us by reply email and then delete the email, destroy any printed copy and do not disclose or use the information in it. If this email is a private communication then it does not represent the views of Lote Consulting. We do not warrant that this email is error or virus free. If, for any reason, we suspect that an incoming email may be virus-infected, it will be quarantined and may not reach its intended recipient. If you are concerned that your email may not reach its intended recipient, please request confirmation of receipt within the body of your email and resend the email if the confirmation is not received within a reasonable time.

With a New National Executive Committee meeting this week in Sydney - What is a fire safety or work issue you would like Society of Fire Safety to deal with or Advocate for. Is it PI Cover costs, EA CPEng Assessments, Ethics in our industry, Education, Women in Fire Engineering. Let us know. National Conference is coming up in July 2023 in Brisbane. Get your passionate issues out here - we will get them covered. 

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Stephen Burton (SFS QLD Chair) Fire Engineers make it work...
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Hi Amer, thanks for responding. We are in an SFS National committee meeting currently. Most of your points are clear, but on your first point - what would a professional standards scheme achieve that is not currently achieved by being CPEng/NER? 

Blair Stratton, 0434 481 676

Hi Stephen

Thanks for your post. In response I suggest the following: 

1. SFS Professional Standards Scheme 

I'm thinking of becoming a Building Surveyor :)  because it appears the AIBS have their act together with their professional standards scheme as shown by image below. With FPAA also having their own scheme it appears that EA and SFS have been left behind and AIBS/ FPAA members are getting more value from their membership 

2. PI Insurance

This remains an issue for the industry, especially small business. There is a lack of understanding of what a fire engineer does in the insurance market and we are treated similar to a Private Certifier in terms of risk profile. 

3. Contracts 

Similar issue as Point 2 on the legal side. A standard scope and duties of a Fire Engineer to attach to contracts would help to reduce the risk profile and also improve market quality. 

4. Quantification and Risk Assessment

The Risk Engineering Society is interested in working with SFS to assist with Risk Assessment Training and presenting on the REBOK (Risk Engineering Book of Knowledge) to SFS Members. Can this be facilitated via workshop at the back of the 2023 conference. A University has expressed an interest in this.

5. Promoting Fire Engineering to the next Generation

We need a promotional video clip to show the general public what a Fire Engineer does to attract the next generation of fire engineers to the profession. 

6. Performance Solutions Misconception

There is a misconception in the industry that fire performance solutions are partly responsible for the building defects and cladding crisis we are experiencing. Some promotional videos to address this misconception would be great. A parallel would be the videos and promotional material put out by the AAC to highlight that Private Certification is not responsible for all defects crisis in the industry  

All the best 

Kind regards

Amer

Take a break. Have a bite of our latest newsletter: Lote Notes Feb 23 – Fire & Security in Practice

Dr Amer Magrabi  | Principal - Fire & Risk Engineering 

e: [email protected]
w: www.loteconsulting.com

This email (including any attachments) is confidential and subject to copyright. If it has been sent to you in error please inform us by reply email and then delete the email, destroy any printed copy and do not disclose or use the information in it. If this email is a private communication then it does not represent the views of Lote Consulting. We do not warrant that this email is error or virus free. If, for any reason, we suspect that an incoming email may be virus-infected, it will be quarantined and may not reach its intended recipient. If you are concerned that your email may not reach its intended recipient, please request confirmation of receipt within the body of your email and resend the email if the confirmation is not received within a reasonable time.

With a New National Executive Committee meeting this week in Sydney - What is a fire safety or work issue you would like Society of Fire Safety to deal with or Advocate for. Is it PI Cover costs, EA CPEng Assessments, Ethics in our industry, Education, Women in Fire Engineering. Let us know. National Conference is coming up in July 2023 in Brisbane. Get your passionate issues out here - we will get them covered. 

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Stephen Burton (SFS QLD Chair) Fire Engineers make it work...
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Hi Amer,
EA is working on preparing a professional standards scheme - obviously this is above the paygrade of the SFS committee, it's a national EA initiative. In discussions on Friday, our EA liaison staff noted that a PSS is unlikely to result in changes to insurance premiums.

Hi Amer, thanks for responding. We are in an SFS National committee meeting currently. Most of your points are clear, but on your first point - what would a professional standards scheme achieve that is not currently achieved by being CPEng/NER? 

Blair Stratton, 0434 481 676

Hi Stephen

Thanks for your post. In response I suggest the following: 

1. SFS Professional Standards Scheme 

I'm thinking of becoming a Building Surveyor :)  because it appears the AIBS have their act together with their professional standards scheme as shown by image below. With FPAA also having their own scheme it appears that EA and SFS have been left behind and AIBS/ FPAA members are getting more value from their membership 

2. PI Insurance

This remains an issue for the industry, especially small business. There is a lack of understanding of what a fire engineer does in the insurance market and we are treated similar to a Private Certifier in terms of risk profile. 

3. Contracts 

Similar issue as Point 2 on the legal side. A standard scope and duties of a Fire Engineer to attach to contracts would help to reduce the risk profile and also improve market quality. 

4. Quantification and Risk Assessment

The Risk Engineering Society is interested in working with SFS to assist with Risk Assessment Training and presenting on the REBOK (Risk Engineering Book of Knowledge) to SFS Members. Can this be facilitated via workshop at the back of the 2023 conference. A University has expressed an interest in this.

5. Promoting Fire Engineering to the next Generation

We need a promotional video clip to show the general public what a Fire Engineer does to attract the next generation of fire engineers to the profession. 

6. Performance Solutions Misconception

There is a misconception in the industry that fire performance solutions are partly responsible for the building defects and cladding crisis we are experiencing. Some promotional videos to address this misconception would be great. A parallel would be the videos and promotional material put out by the AAC to highlight that Private Certification is not responsible for all defects crisis in the industry  

All the best 

Kind regards

Amer

Take a break. Have a bite of our latest newsletter: Lote Notes Feb 23 – Fire & Security in Practice

Dr Amer Magrabi  | Principal - Fire & Risk Engineering 

e: [email protected]
w: www.loteconsulting.com

This email (including any attachments) is confidential and subject to copyright. If it has been sent to you in error please inform us by reply email and then delete the email, destroy any printed copy and do not disclose or use the information in it. If this email is a private communication then it does not represent the views of Lote Consulting. We do not warrant that this email is error or virus free. If, for any reason, we suspect that an incoming email may be virus-infected, it will be quarantined and may not reach its intended recipient. If you are concerned that your email may not reach its intended recipient, please request confirmation of receipt within the body of your email and resend the email if the confirmation is not received within a reasonable time.

With a New National Executive Committee meeting this week in Sydney - What is a fire safety or work issue you would like Society of Fire Safety to deal with or Advocate for. Is it PI Cover costs, EA CPEng Assessments, Ethics in our industry, Education, Women in Fire Engineering. Let us know. National Conference is coming up in July 2023 in Brisbane. Get your passionate issues out here - we will get them covered. 

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Stephen Burton (SFS QLD Chair) Fire Engineers make it work...
------------------------------

Hi Stephen

Thanks for your post. In response I suggest the following: 

1. SFS Professional Standards Scheme 

I'm thinking of becoming a Building Surveyor :)  because it appears the AIBS have their act together with their professional standards scheme as shown by image below. With FPAA also having their own scheme it appears that EA and SFS have been left behind and AIBS/ FPAA members are getting more value from their membership 

2. PI Insurance

This remains an issue for the industry, especially small business. There is a lack of understanding of what a fire engineer does in the insurance market and we are treated similar to a Private Certifier in terms of risk profile. 

3. Contracts 

Similar issue as Point 2 on the legal side. A standard scope and duties of a Fire Engineer to attach to contracts would help to reduce the risk profile and also improve market quality. 

4. Quantification and Risk Assessment

The Risk Engineering Society is interested in working with SFS to assist with Risk Assessment Training and presenting on the REBOK (Risk Engineering Book of Knowledge) to SFS Members. Can this be facilitated via workshop at the back of the 2023 conference. A University has expressed an interest in this.

5. Promoting Fire Engineering to the next Generation

We need a promotional video clip to show the general public what a Fire Engineer does to attract the next generation of fire engineers to the profession. 

6. Performance Solutions Misconception

There is a misconception in the industry that fire performance solutions are partly responsible for the building defects and cladding crisis we are experiencing. Some promotional videos to address this misconception would be great. A parallel would be the videos and promotional material put out by the AAC to highlight that Private Certification is not responsible for all defects crisis in the industry  

All the best 

Kind regards

Amer

Take a break. Have a bite of our latest newsletter: Lote Notes Feb 23 – Fire & Security in Practice

Dr Amer Magrabi  | Principal - Fire & Risk Engineering 

e: [email protected]
w: www.loteconsulting.com

This email (including any attachments) is confidential and subject to copyright. If it has been sent to you in error please inform us by reply email and then delete the email, destroy any printed copy and do not disclose or use the information in it. If this email is a private communication then it does not represent the views of Lote Consulting. We do not warrant that this email is error or virus free. If, for any reason, we suspect that an incoming email may be virus-infected, it will be quarantined and may not reach its intended recipient. If you are concerned that your email may not reach its intended recipient, please request confirmation of receipt within the body of your email and resend the email if the confirmation is not received within a reasonable time.

With a New National Executive Committee meeting this week in Sydney - What is a fire safety or work issue you would like Society of Fire Safety to deal with or Advocate for. Is it PI Cover costs, EA CPEng Assessments, Ethics in our industry, Education, Women in Fire Engineering. Let us know. National Conference is coming up in July 2023 in Brisbane. Get your passionate issues out here - we will get them covered. 

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Stephen Burton (SFS QLD Chair) Fire Engineers make it work...
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